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Der Riese strategy (2-3 players ONLY)

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Re: Der Riese strategy (2-3 players ONLY)

Postby LimbSoup » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:14 pm

Lt. zombowner wrote:LimbSoup: When will you understand that the zombies increase their HP by 100 only by round? And if you think there is no max. zombies even in singleplayer, GO SEE TERYARCH'S SITE.


Perhaps you should provide a link to back up your statement. I'm not going to search Treyarch's site for something that isn't there. But you won't be able to, because its flat out wrong. Zombie HP increases by 100 only zombie levels before 10 (health doesn't increase during dog rounds). After that, it increases by 10%. And no, there is no max.

http://wiki.treyarch.com/wiki/Downloadi ... _The_Tools

from raw/maps/_zombiemode.gsc
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ai_calculate_health()
{
   // After round 10, get exponentially harder
   if( level.round_number >= 10 )
   {
      level.zombie_health += Int( level.zombie_health * level.zombie_vars["zombie_health_increase_percent"] );
      return;
   }

   if( level.round_number > 1 )
   {
      level.zombie_health = Int( level.zombie_health + level.zombie_vars["zombie_health_increase"] );
   }

}

Note that earlier in the code zombie_health_increase is 100, and zombie_health_increase_percent is 0.1, i.e. 10%.

If you can't even realize that by level 30+, the rounds are getting much much longer because of a huge increase in zombies, I seriously doubt you've gotten this far.
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Re: Der Riese strategy (2-3 players ONLY)

Postby egibney » Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:48 pm

i dont know about der riese, but i know on the first 3 maps there is a set amount of zombies per round (i'm only positive about single player, i repeat ONLY single player.) and the health still increases. basically, the same amount, but stronger.
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Re: Der Riese strategy (2-3 players ONLY)

Postby LimbSoup » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:14 pm

The number of zombies and zombie health is done the same way across all four maps. The only catch is that with Shi No Numa and Der Riese, zombie health isn't increased in the dog rounds.

See the table on top.

(There are also actually minor differences in the first couple rounds of Verruckt)
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Re: Der Riese strategy (2-3 players ONLY)

Postby egibney » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:42 pm

yeah well i agree.
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Re: Der Riese strategy (2-3 players ONLY)

Postby zombiehunter » Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:47 pm

At level 31 with 3 people, there are 369 zombie and the zombie HP can range from 3900 to 4800. At best, that's 369 x 3900 = 1,439,100. At 31, this is viable if you're competent and don't waste your raygun (which is likely).

I wasn't talking about 31 though. I was talking about 39. Even 38, lets say. With 3 people thats 548 zombies, with HP ranging from 6300 - 7700. Best case scenario you have 548 x 6300 = 3,452,400, which is actually unrealistically low. That's still over 1,000,000 damage each player must do. If you're all shooting the same zombies while clumped out on the catwalk, most of your ray gun's potential will be wasted.

WAY to many numbers, heres how it works for me. No matter where you are, you shoot your guns and kill zombies. If you need ammo go buy it or get a new gun! that simple.
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Re: Der Riese strategy (2-3 players ONLY)

Postby TheLoneCHARLES » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:50 pm

To elaborate on the orignal poster, it's a good idea to stay on the catwalk until about Round 25 then it's time to go. Staying up there any longer with 2 people is a recipe for death.
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Re: Der Riese strategy (2-3 players ONLY)

Postby meimeix3 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:29 am

Well , This i what i would actually do with 2-3 players:
Stay at the main frame until the end round 4 using a pistol (w/ 3 players) or a gewer/kar (w/ 2 players). Obviously, we would let all the zombies in at the first round since it's going to be a one shot kill with ONLY the knife.
End of round 4, we open up the THOMSON way and buy thomsons and camp at the main frame until round 8 unless you get into some kind of trouble, you'll have to be out there before the next doggie round. We get around 10000 points by campin in the main frame so we'll buy juggernoth & bouncin betties (< for 3 gun glitch) and use the box.
With only 2-3 players, all the players should have have good guns, since less use of the box. Then link up the teleporters but make sure when linking the trench one, open the stairs near juggernoth instead. We open up the cat walk way, and camp there until round 20, then we usually leave and camp in the alley (the trench way)
One will cover the window at the back while the two covers the way. Make sure to plant lots of betties in the middle. Oh, and if you want another one will cover the window up front(take turns). I usually go up with level 30 with this, if you have all the perks, and good guns uprageded (ray guns, MG 42, Browning, wunderwaffle, ppsh, etc..) and if all of us has monkeys (we usually do) If we get into trouble we just open the next door which is the 750 p. door to the trench and teleport to the main frame if we get over run. The at this part we shud have around 30000+ points so we teleport, and run around. This gets us to around level 35,if you have a wunder waffle and it's upgrded,you'll be able to up to level 40. If you out of ammo just keep teleporting till you get one, if dogs are just coming out, keep doing it you'll eventually get it.

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Re: Der Riese strategy (2-3 players ONLY)

Postby LimbSoup » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:30 pm

meimeix3 wrote: If you out of ammo just keep teleporting till you get one, if dogs are just coming out, keep doing it you'll eventually get it.


After level 35, you won't get ANYTHING from the teleporter unless someone is in last stand. And even then, the chances for ammo are 4%, which doesn't make several teleports for the sole purpose of ammo worth it.
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Re: Der Riese strategy (2-3 players ONLY)

Postby egibney » Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:07 am

are you sure you cant get stuff? i seem to get teleport stuff at random inteverals
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